Weren't you at the webinar today? If so then you must have missed Tissa's feelings that the referral system is gone as far as paying out commissions to refer people, bottom line. He intends to still make it available for people who've brought in quality referrals on a consistent basis and haven't perpetrated any type of fraud. You're wasting your time attempting to keep it going, the future holds many possibilities for us to earn money...just not in the "make money by referring others" venue.

Linda

Yeah, guys you're kicking a dead horse here.  Tissa made it very clear which direction he was taking APS today.

But don't worry, there will still be the referral program for select members (however I don't know how exactly this will work) and second-tier commission on PPCall referrals.

Plus really cool things like APS GOING MOBILE! 

-Chris

That is the best thing that I have heard today

Ramesh

Unfortunately Tissa already did some major restructuring to the referrals payout system in the last year, changing the payouts to reflect a 400% bonus if step 3 was at or above 15% and also incorporating a residual bonus for every month that our referrals stayed at step 3, he did his best to make this work but there are those of us here who've seen the writing on the wall for some time now. Not to blame Tissa at all as he did everything possible to make it work, the online trends as Tissa indicated in the webinar today are changing now and we all need to move with the action or sink in marketing.

The  sad facts are that Tissa did all he could for the referral payout system to work and many of us have strived to get quality referrals. Even in doing all of that, people just don't want to work to achieve anything, as Tissa said people can be lazy or they don't want to put out any money at all to grow an online business. So even though we've worked our rearends off attempting to "guide" these people it's been a lost cause.

Add to that exactly what Tissa spoke about today, the strict FTC regulations regarding online advertising, and Tissa is responsible for even one rogue affiliate who can't or won't follow the rules. He could lose everything he's worked for over 10 years in marketing due to one idiotic mistake by one idiotic affiliate placing just one bad ad. All it takes is one.....and there is always one out there at any given time. Not to mention the ridiculous rate of scammers who signup with full intentions of scamming the system with bogus referrals. Tissa is tired of dealing with it on a daily basis and I for one completely understand his sentiments here.

Let's look forward to all that the program is to bring us with the new PPC, LLG and mobile advertising as this is where the money is at now and for a long time to come.

Linda 

I have to ask, just to be sure...I missed the webinar, didn't hear anything about it....but
did someone say the referral program is going away?  You mean, the program where you tell someone else, and you create a downline?  Huh?

Doce you do not know what she meant. I have placed "one bad ad" on several of my topics on now she is calling "this person" an idiot and placing in bold one bad ad. I have the right to defend my self. I have never tryed to scam this system and to be called an idiot is not cool.

So please allow me to defend my self when someone calls me an idiot. Thank you

by the way a super sponsor calling people idiots who do not know better is really really not cool.
Take it how you want I have to right to defend myself. this is not an arena nor am I trying to make it one but when I am being called an idiot I have the right to say something about it.

Dear Amanda,
I saw the ferocity on the post you are talking about. Now, let's move forward for this new big thing from T and do not let the words to transform in negativity. I understand that you and Linda, but please, do not let this forum to be AGAIN an arena.
Do all of us a favor (both of you):
If one starts, the other side DO NOT RESPOND.
This forum was created to help each other not to be a place for disputes. Let's all work together and let's all help each other.
Amanda, please DO NOT REPLY. Linda, please, DO NOT REPLY.
Thank  you girls: I love both of you.
Now let's keep working and try to infiltrate on Tissa's mind to find out what the next BIG THING IS.
Emiliano

No Amanda it's not a direct insult to you....one bad ad is in bold as that is all it would take to ruin Tissa and I wanted to emphasize that point. I wish you would stop being so touchy, I won't argue with you on the forum. In my time here, I've seen too many people posting misleading ads, and this is one of the reasons Tissa has decided to end the affiliate payouts. As I already said, I think this thread is a waste of time, Tissa is the head of the APS program and he's decided to end the affiliate aspect of it....why not just respect his wishes?

Linda

Tissa is NOT stopping the business.

He made 2 announcements yesterday:

1) The referral program has ended. However, there will be select affiliates who will be allowed to continue to MAP the business side of APS and earn referral fees. This is no different than what other large internet businesses are doing to combat fraud and to limit any legal liabilities they might encounter and is why many companies are manually approving applications instead of doing a blanket acceptance of everyone who applies. One should also continue to market APS because it is a great platform to earn commissions from the other income streams like GDI and GVO as has been proven over and over again.

2) The Super Sponsor program has ended. It was a very innovative idea but is has now served its purpose. Almost every question that could be asked about APS has been answered at the Forum and unfortunately, people were just not taking advantage of the benefits that Tissa offered to have all of ones monthly expenses covered plus some. Hopefully, the spirit of the SS program will live on and people will continue to be helpful at the forum as they always have been. Tissa knows the value the SS Program offered and knows how important it has been for some to get their businesses off the ground. And, because of that, he may continue to reward certain people who demonstrate the attributes of a SS, but it will not be done officially.

APS is evolving and we are headed in an exciting new direction as PP Call, local marketing, and mobile marketing begin to dominate the advertising industry in the years ahead. Around 1.8 billion people have internet access via computer, but almost 6 billion have mobile phones. Of those, only about 58 million are smartphones (Iphones, Droid, etc.) but that number is expected to rapidly grow in the coming years.

APS is working on a search engine mobile application that people can download to their phone and affiliates will be able to monetize those downloads as well as market the search engine to mobile phone users just as they do today to computer users. Very soon the alternative to TrialPay will be introduced which will only require that a person enter their email address to get the results, which means the affiliate earns a commission. This type of email submit is perfect for mobile applications. There will be additional ways to monetize the search engine as well.

And, we will continue to expand PP Call to more niches which opens up a multitude of ways to monetize your business.

So, far from ending the business, Tissa is growing the business and providing more opportunities for the affiliates to make money, which is what we all want to do.

And who might those "select affiliates" be? Still wondering what the H@#l happened while I was on vacation...

Regards,

Amy

Hello All.

I am really trying to get a handle on all these changes.

Okay, so Tissa has made some decisions and is enforcing them and the APS system that everyone believe in has changed.  My question in the mist of all this is for those who have spent a year or more building a website around APS, what are they supposed to do?  All the hard worked and articles and linkbuilding has also been blowed up.  Now we will have false claims all over the internet due to these changes.

Am I over reacting here or does this lead to greater problems.  Because you can't pull an article that was submitted thru an article directory over a year ago, which is no longer true.  In the event that APS is worried about fraud, won't it still exist because of these type of things?  Or are there some type of laws that understand articles and posts become old and invalid and therefore not considered unlawful?  I am just tired of changing blog posts, etc. because of all the changes.

I don't know, just my concerns.  I just feel confused and defeated.  I have worked so hard building my business around APS, and I am still learning so much and not at a good point financially yet.  And now, this is changed and there is something else that is coming.  How is one to get a handle on all this?  There is always too much going on, some many changes?

Well, just my two cents.

Donna

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I am glad I only put 2 weeks into the referral program...even still....I placed 2,560 classifieds for the opportunity...and I was starting to see the signups.....oh well, gotta reword the ads...Im just glad I didnt set up all kinds of other things only to have all these changes...I feel for those with a very vested interrest aimed at referrals like I was trying to do.

I hope to make the ppcall thing work but I'm not sure if its my thing....anyone know a good link to what its all about and how it works? I REALL dont have money to throw around carelessly I have been unemployed for 2 years and I have no unemployment money...so I only have what I earn day by day.

Last edited by QMCO (2010-08-07 17:14:56)

Thanks Gary.  So do I have this correct:  Basically Step 3 is now free for everyone.  The only change is Tissa is no longer paying Step 1 commissions and Step 3 recurring commissions.  Members will still be able to bring new referrals into the business by offering the free people search engine and (now) free referral platform, however the only commissions earned for referrals will come from web hosting commissions and second-tier commission with the PPCall platform?

If that's correct, these changes really aren't that radical.  We're basically getting Step 3 for free in exchange for giving up Step 1 referral commissions.

-Chris

Sorry didnt know about the link pointing thing!!!!! Ill remove it and I wont do it again....

I did read the rules of the forum and thought I knew the important stuff I must have overlooked or forgotten that point...I am sorry..

Last edited by QMCO (2010-08-07 17:17:39)