Topic: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hi, Tissa!
My partners of ACME registered to you to GDI. You sent me a letter
saying that everything will function as before, even without pay.
As a result, I see that it is not.
It's like a Trojan horse! And I was not informed about it.
So as you act with partners who are experiencing temporary
difficulties with money and can not pay for the ACME ?
Frankly, after ACME me in GDI no reported Affiliates. Not for the first
trial 30 days, nor for the next.  ANY!!! 
I guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard :DI guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard big_smile But it is vile!
Why should I pay $ 39 in ACME I do not understand.
Can anyone deny this and explain?

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hi

You have misunderstood how Acme works. You need to start advertising yourself, don't rely on tissa to do the work for you.Tissa only advertises you referral link for 24 hours or until you receive your $125 bonus.You will need to learn how to market, advertise and promote for yourself.I encourage you to read this beginners guide so you can learn more about how acme works.

http://acme-people-search-forum.com/top … ted-mar24/

Eleanor




LagodA wrote:

Hi, Tissa!
My partners of ACME registered to you to GDI. You sent me a letter
saying that everything will function as before, even without pay.
As a result, I see that it is not.
It's like a Trojan horse! And I was not informed about it.
So as you act with partners who are experiencing temporary
difficulties with money and can not pay for the ACME ?
Frankly, after ACME me in GDI no reported Affiliates. Not for the first
trial 30 days, nor for the next.  ANY!!! 
I guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard :DI guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard big_smile But it is vile!
Why should I pay $ 39 in ACME I do not understand.
Can anyone deny this and explain?

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Eleanor Candy wrote:

Hi

You have misunderstood how Acme works. You need to start advertising yourself, don't rely on tissa to do the work for you.Tissa only advertises you referral link for 24 hours or until you receive your $125 bonus.You will need to learn how to market, advertise and promote for yourself.I encourage you to read this beginners guide so you can learn more about how acme works.

http://acme-people-search-forum.com/top … ted-mar24/





No one partner for a month! Those who have registered to me, said me that in GDI link for registration to the Tissa.  sad

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hi

Did you put your GDI referral id in your Acme back office?


LagodA wrote:
Eleanor Candy wrote:

Hi

You have misunderstood how Acme works. You need to start advertising yourself, don't rely on tissa to do the work for you.Tissa only advertises you referral link for 24 hours or until you receive your $125 bonus.You will need to learn how to market, advertise and promote for yourself.I encourage you to read this beginners guide so you can learn more about how acme works.

http://acme-people-search-forum.com/top … ted-mar24/





No one partner for a month! Those who have registered to me, said me that in GDI link for registration to the Tissa.  sad

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Eleanor Candy wrote:

Did you put your GDI referral id in your Acme back office

In my referals Acme back office Tissa's GDI referral id. Not mine GDI referral id, but Tissa's GDI referral id!!! In my referals Acme back office!!! ;(

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hi

Insert your id and then click update.Go to enter affiliate id's under account settings,insert your GDI username and update.You must have currently completed step 3 to enter your id's, if not you won't get referrals for GDI.


LagodA wrote:
Eleanor Candy wrote:

Did you put your GDI referral id in your Acme back office

In my referals Acme back office Tissa's GDI referral id. Not mine GDI referral id, but Tissa's GDI referral id!!! In my referals Acme back office!!! ;(

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

LagodA wrote:

Hi, Tissa!
I guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard :DI guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard big_smile But it is vile!
Why should I pay $ 39 in ACME I do not understand.
Can anyone deny this and explain?

Sure, I can explain.  There's nothing to deny:

LagodA, you're APS account 1264638215HBVU (Alexey Zhirov).  You subscribed to Step 3 on Jan 28, 2010, PayPal subscription S-9UL69005DF9874340.  Except PayPal's attempts to charge you kept failing.  So you weren't upgraded to Step 3.  So you haven't paid me a penny for my services.

Since you didn't complete Step 3, you can't unlock the Step 3 income streams, including GDI.  Which means you can't enter your GDI affiliate ID into your APS back office.  Which means your APS referrals are given my GDI affiliate ID, not yours.  No secret there.

In an effort to prove your bizarre Trojan Horse theory (huh?), you created another APS account, under the guise of a "referral".  You created APS account 1266006520KJTY, belonging to "Alexa Alexa" with phone number "79069999999".  A fake referral (we checked).

And clearly a violation of the TOS.  I just disabled your "referral", 1266006520KJTY.  1264638215HBVU (your account) is next, unless there's something you'd like to add.  Like maybe an apology.

Tissa

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Tissa Godavitarne wrote:
LagodA wrote:

Hi, Tissa!
I guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard :DI guess they are all registered with Tissa! Maybe that is why he has such a high rating on the LeaderBoard big_smile But it is vile!
Why should I pay $ 39 in ACME I do not understand.
Can anyone deny this and explain?

Sure, I can explain.  There's nothing to deny:

LagodA, you're APS account 1264638215HBVU (Alexey Zhirov).  You subscribed to Step 3 on Jan 28, 2010, PayPal subscription S-9UL69005DF9874340.  Except PayPal's attempts to charge you kept failing.  So you weren't upgraded to Step 3.  So you haven't paid me a penny for my services.

Since you didn't complete Step 3, you can't unlock the Step 3 income streams, including GDI.  Which means you can't enter your GDI affiliate ID into your APS back office.  Which means your APS referrals are given my GDI affiliate ID, not yours.  No secret there.

In an effort to prove your bizarre Trojan Horse theory (huh?), you created another APS account, under the guise of a "referral".  You created APS account 1266006520KJTY, belonging to "Alexa Alexa" with phone number "79069999999".  A fake referral (we checked).

And clearly a violation of the TOS.  I just disabled your "referral", 1266006520KJTY.  1264638215HBVU (your account) is next, unless there's something you'd like to add.  Like maybe an apology.

Tissa

Dear, Tissa! I am very sorry that it happened. But I did not act behind you, secretly! I was completely honest with you!

1266006520KJTY APS account has been activated for a step by step instructions in Russian for the registration of Russian partners.Could not some other way to do a Russian translation of the registration process. And I do not want your $ 125 on this account. It was created exclusively for the training of new Affiliates. 
And I told you this in the appropriate e-mail. I told you that this is an extra check and that it should be removed.

You say: "So you haven't paid me a penny for my services."
- I'm Sorry! I have not received a single affiliate, and even no one has ever gone on my registration page!
Of course, I realize that's what I have to pay! big_smile

I drew more than 30 Affiliates without the aid of APS.  And they ask me: "How many affiliates from APS have you registered? We want to know - that we will pay $ 29 every month?!"

And I tell them that during a month I have not received any affiliates from ACME. I have not received any affiliates from ACME!!!  And it's true!
Then they ask me: "why we will be registered in the APS and pay $ 29 every month?"
They are not interested in the guaranteed $ 125! They are interested in new affiliates in GDI!!!

If you think that I am completely wrong about the Trojan horse, then I apologize! But you could warn me that all my APS partners will be recorded in the GDI to you. And now I'm so hurt!

And it looks like a Trojan horse, because I do not know about it, and you have not told me about it.

Last edited by LagodA (2010-04-08 01:22:32)

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Now my partners asked me: "How many new GDI affiliates you have signed up from ACME?" - Not one - I answer. "Then why do we need it to register and pay $ 29 every month?". Anybody can answer?
What can I say to them? I did not get the result. : ( For $ 29 in GDI I could buy 10 of interested affiliates.  In ACME - none.

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hi

By completing step 3 and paying $29.95 you can unlock 7 more income streams.

GDI
Hostgator
GVO
APS Referral Fees
Shoemoney System
Wealthy Affiliate
Affilorama

By just promoting your acme referral links you can get commissions from all income streams. If any of your referrals complete step 2 you will get a GDI sign up.

Eleanor


LagodA wrote:

Now my partners asked me: "How many new GDI affiliates you have signed up from ACME?" - Not one - I answer. "Then why do we need it to register and pay $ 29 every month?". Anybody can answer?
What can I say to them? I did not get the result. : ( For $ 29 in GDI I could buy 10 of interested affiliates.  In ACME - none.

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Eleanor Candy wrote:

Shoemoney System
Wealthy Affiliate
Affilorama

Here, training by English. We is not suitable - no one knows English. Why pay $ 100 more each month?

in GVO came to me my partners not from ACME. Not one from ACME!
Why pay ACME??

Do you understand me??? Pays for what???? smile

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

You do not understand! smile

Last edited by LagodA (2010-04-09 05:34:45)

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Привет
Остановите оплатить 29,95 в месяц, чтобы APS, пока вы не узнаете, как на рынке рекламировать и продвигать.
Affilorama бесплатно, то вы узнаете, как это сделать.
Вы можете попробовать использовать онлайн-переводчик, чтобы помочь Вам с языковыми трудностями.

Надеюсь, что это помогает.

Энтони

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

I have not seen an apology yet,
you have recieved your explanation ...
you have to join the referral program before you can earn from the internal programs...
if you cannot see the value in this then do not join.
There is no point anybody trying to convince you if you cannot grasp this concept.

Kevan

"Remember, Early to Bed, Early to RISE
then Work like Hell and adverTISE"

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Anthony Tansley wrote:

Вы можете попробовать использовать онлайн-переводчик, чтобы помочь Вам с языковыми трудностями.

Я пользуюсь онлайн-переводчиком. Помогает! И без знания английского с переводчиком не понять многих вещей.
Будет лучше, если вы будете писать на родном языке. Видимо онлайн-переводчик делает перевод на английский так же некорректно, как и на русский. При этим я надеюсь Вы меня понимаете. smile

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Ну я не доверяю Тисса сначала тоже, но я нашел честного человека, который вам поможет.
Можете ли вы очень хорошо говорите по-английски? В этом случае можно пойти жить вебинары, или заглянуть в бэк-офис для Talk To Тисса.

Надеюсь, это поможет немного и получает вам необходимую информацию.

Энтони

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

KevCowley wrote:

if you cannot see the value in this then do not join.

I am already registered and who knows: maybe on my advertising registered affiliates and not to me but to the Tissa. And it is a shame - I was hyping its APS, but he gets. What is it called?

Я уже зарегистрирован и кто знает: может по моей рекламе регистрируются affiliates и не ко мне, а к Тиссе. И это обидно - я раскручиваю его APS, а ОН получает. Как это называется?

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Strazi LogadA,

...sorry that my limited Russian does not serve me well here!  A lot has already been written about "Trojan Horses," team members lost, and not adhering to the Terms of Service.  It would be nice to have a "dummy" account so that we can train our team.  If fact, that would make a great recommendation to make this business even better.

I think you are missing a very important point about the APS business.  First of all, it's a very real business.  It's a small business and Tissa runs it very, very well.  Unforunately, I cannot give you enough reasons why this is true.  You have to experience it for yourself.

But, it's also a business that does not try to hide anything.  It is completely open.  You can ask Tissa or Gary anything and they will give you an honest answer.  You can ask Tissa yourself if you attend the Webinars: www.talktotissa.com.

It is also a business that rewards its associates.  If you are familiar with the recent GVO contest, you may know what I mean.  By my calculation, this business is paying huge dividends back to it's team members.  Tissa is going to win a BMW valued, probably, at $30,000.  Yet, the business is going to pay out over $73,000 in commissions, bonuses, etc. 

That means the business is going to take a loss of $43,000 (http://acme-people-search.com/gvo.upgrades.php).

Why is this business willing to do this?  Quite simply... the business is investing in the long term profitability of its team members.  I know you won't find anything else like this on the Internet.

This is something you can certainly sell to your team members as value added for their $29.95 membership.

Plus, Tissa also just offered a lifetime membership in Step 3 to his associates for a one time charge of $325.  Approximately 320 associated took advantage of this offer.  Why?  Because there are associates that are committed to this business for the long term.  They have been in this business for a while and they understand how it works and how it benefits them.

Don't you owe it to your team members to provide them the best advice possible?

I hope this helps!

Rick

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Thank you all!
I'm tired of repeating, but you can not put yourself in my place. So I do not see any understanding.  sad
Maybe something I do not understand ....
But the worst lie - it's true a little bit modified. Trojan horse - this is precisely the lie.
I understand that Thiess has done a lot of good that he practically a genius! But then why should he spoil the reputation of such trifles? Afraid of losing a new affiliates?
I wish he was afraid of losing old partners and new and still have nothing to lose. In Russia say: the old one better than the new two. And it's true. smile


Однако самая худшая ложь - это правда чуть чуть измененная. Троянский конь - это и есть та самая ложь.
Я все понимаю что Тисса очень много делает хорошего, что он практически гений! Но тогда зачем ему портить репутацию в таких мелочах? Боится потерять нового affiliate?
Лучше бы он боялся потерять старых партнеров, а новых еще и терять нечего. У нас говорят: старый друг лучше новых двух. И это правда. smile

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

It's not that Tissa is willing to give up a new, and likely very valuable member of our team.

But, rules are rules, and that's why everyone needs to read the Terms of Service.  Plus, and please understand that I am not saying that this applies to you, but the Internet if full of people trying to taking advantage of programs... there is a lot of fraud that this business needs to protect itself from.

I noticed that when you use Google translate you are taking your written English word and translating to Russian.  Please write in Russian and translate it to English.

Also, as an afterthought, when I was in Russia it seemed to me that everyone spoke English and most a lot better than me. And, I wasn't a casual visitor.  I studied Russia, it's culture and language, Government,  Econonmy, etc , so I find your earlier comment that Russians don't understand English a little surprising.

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

+1 Rick short and to the point.. At the same time it is not offensive in anyway.

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Oh, Rick!! that's a big pleasure that you studied in Russia, and, I suppose, in Moscow)))

    Леша!!! привет!
    Всегда существуют подводные камни, и пока их найдешь, иногда приходится сделать некоторые ошибки...
    Во-первых, чтобы получить комиссии с реферралов, ты должен быть зарегистрирован на шаге 3 минимум 45 дней и доменное имя твоего почтового ящика должно совпадать с твоим доменом в шаге 2 и почтовым ящиком в Пэй-Пэле;
    Во-вторых, зайди в свой бек-офис в раздел Account settings - Enter Affiliate IDs , и поставь там свои линки ( не забудь нажать Update!!!), теперь там будут твои реферральные ссылки;
    И в-третьих, учти, что обещанные первые 5$ за пройденный твоим реферралом шаг1 выплачиваются только при условии, если минимум 15% от твоих всех реферралов прошли шаг 3. В противном случае, ты получаешь только 1$, a 4$ остаются в потенциальных платежах, пока ты не выполнишь данное условие.
   Вот так, если что, пиши в личку)))
   Анюта smile

Yes +1

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Короче, чем больше у тебя реферралов пройдет шаг 3, тем больше у тебя будет потенциальных и реальных комиссий. И не забывай проверять свои линки в бэк-офисе!!!

Yes +1

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Anyuta,

Спасибо за ваш вклад. Я считаю, что если хорошие люди России могут работать вместе, что мы можем установить очень успешным русской общины здесь, на APS.

Некоторые коллеги из Индии и Индонезии и других стран сделали отдельный пост предлагает, чтобы помочь гражданам своей страны в APS. Если вы заинтересованы, то было бы хорошо иметь кого-то из России сделать то же самое.

Thanks for your contribution.  I believe that if the good people of Russia can work together that we can establish a very successful Russian community here at APS.

Some associates from India and Indonesia and other countries have made a separate post offering to help citizens of their country in APS. If you are interested, it would be good to have someone from Russia do the same thing.

Rick

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Rick Samara wrote:

Some associates from India and Indonesia and other countries have made a separate post offering to help citizens of their country in APS. If you are interested, it would be good to have someone from Russia do the same thing.

Yes Rick! We're going to do it! And then such a stupid misunderstanding occurs. Thus it was that Trojan horse big_smile

Да Рик! Мы это и собираемся сделать! А то такое глупое недопонимание происходит. Так и вышло с Троянским конем big_smile

Last edited by LagodA (2010-04-12 11:12:04)

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Thanks Rick for such an idea!!!
but if you look at some my posts you can see that I have already done "Russian" topics like "GVO in Russia" or "GDI in Russia" wink Unfortunately, not all Russians (there are few of them here sad ) know about them big_smile But I still think that this situation will improve))))

Regards,
Anya.

Yes

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hi, Tissa! Congratulations on winning BMW M3! You are the man!!! cool

Re: It's like a Trojan horse!

Hello! Need your help on a very important issue. My favorite sponsor Tissa not enough time to answer my questions. So to help out, please.
The draft GVO I still have not paid money for March. I decided to see partners will receive a payment on our account, and from their earnings to pay membership! But the money is not already the third month. And the account is locked. Support could not really answer. Advise, please, what to do and how to do better?! Or is this project - all do not pay or just me?

Last edited by LagodA (2010-06-08 18:20:16)